Town or Village

[Westmorland]

Mansfield is all but in name a City

Nottingham itself is quite a small city, as the city boundaries do not take in areas such as Arnold, Beeston, Gedling, Carlton etc which most people class as being Nottingham

[Tomas Drouty]

Unclassified - single dwellings, populations up to 20
Hamlet = several dwellings, therefore population of 20-200.
Village = population 201 - 10,000
Small Town = 10,001 - 25,000
Town = 25001 - 50000
Large Town = 50,001 - 100,000
Small City = 100,001 - 250000
City = 250001+

Arbitrary figures I know - but you get the idea.

[Caz]

If they classified on population or geographical size, London wouldn't be a city because the city of London has very few residents and isn't very large at a square mile. Neither is the city of Westminster come to that.

[moanersRus]

Apparently london has 8,173,900 residents (2011)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/davehillbl ... n-rises-12

[Caz]

We were discussing city status and what constitutes the classification of settlements, so I was talking about the City of London, not London the conurbation, which includes the London districts and boroughs. Greater London contains two cities, the City of London and the City of Westminster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London If we used the system of population that TD posted, with a population of around 7,000 the City of London would actually be a village.

Yes, it's confusing! Over the years the criteria for classifying settlements has changed and there now seems to be no clear criteria for what constitutes what. As I said earlier, a can of worms!

[Westmorland]

If we look at some near by places, we find Cuckney is classed as a village but Norton is actually a hamlet, because it doesn't have its own church, which I believe a small place has to have to be classed as a village, so Spion Kop would be a hamlet but Sookholme would be a village

[Tomas Drouty]

The village of London has a nice ring to it!

[Westmorland]

it also has its own Police Force separate to the Met, hopefully with its cells full of high flying bankers

[Caz]

The village of London has a nice ring to it!

I was going to be clever and say, ''that'll be Big Ben'', but of course that's in Westminster. So peprhaps the nice ring is from the bells of St Paul's Cathedral, which I believe is in the Square Mile.

I'm picking up a lot of trivia from this subject, all useless in solving our original question of course, but interesting nevertheless,and I've come to the conclusion that there's nothing in a name!

[Westmorland]

Didn't Dick Whittington go to London Town?

[Caz]

I believe he did Adrian! And isn't Nottingham the county town of Nottinghamshire?

Confusing or what?

[Wizard]

If I'm not mistaken, isn't there a sign at the top of the Carrs (on the corner of Oak Garages' Car sales site) that says Warsop TOWN Centre ??.
So Warsop must be a town afterall

[Caz]

We've already ascertained on other threads that signs in Warsop don't always mean what they say! Like the one way signs on High St and the no exit sign at the Clumber St car park.

I think village sounds more quaint than town, but I really quite like living in a parish and belonging to Warsop, rather than just Market Warsop. Perhaps Market Warsop is a town on a Thursday, as it's market day, and a village every other day!

[BigAl]

I was under the impression that for a "Market town" to get the " Market " bit , it had to have a market, not a couple of stalls one day a week but a daily market like Mansfield, there are always some stalls open on the "Market place".

How doe's this leave Shirebrook They have two or three markets a week but its not called Market Shirebrook"

I love these "olde worlde" laws

Did you know that you can still be hung in England for stealing a battleship

[Caz]

The ancient criteria for being called a town was, 'if the settlement had a regular market', that doesn't have to be a daily market, just a regular one and Warsop does have one every Thursday. Also, Warsop has an ancient market charter. However, I think the politicians rule the roost these days and make it up as they go along.

I haven't seen any battleships around here lately Al!